Ep. 61- Surprise fasting perks and modern-day survival | Regaining control during the chaos | Uncommon benefits of fasting | Free One Meal a Day (OMAD) Intermittent Fasting Plan

In this episode, Dr. Scott and Tommy discuss some of the uncommonly recognized benefits of adopting a fasting lifestyle. Modern living provides many benefits and luxuries in many parts of the world, but outside factors can sometimes turn our day-to-day life upside down. Even short-term changes can leave us feeling out of control, but we find that fasting teaches us ways to roll with these punches and keep a level head that can be very valuable during unpredictable times. Recent research also points to many other benefits of intermittent fasting that are discussed.

 

Welton S, Minty R, O'Driscoll T, et al. Intermittent fasting and weight loss: Systematic review. Can Fam Physician. 2020;66(2):117-125.

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Hello, I'm Dr. Scott Watier, and I'm Tommy Welling, and you're listening to the Fasting for Life podcast, and this podcast is about using fasting as a tool to regain your health, achieve ultimate wellness and live the life you truly deserve.

Each episode is a short conversation on a single topic with immediate, actionable steps. We cover everything from fat loss on health and wellness to the science of lifestyle design.

We started fasting for life because of how fasting has transformed our lives, and we hope to share the tools that we have learned along the way.

Everyone, welcome to the Fasting for Life podcast. My name is Dr. Scott Watier, and I'm here, as always, am a good friend and colleague, Tommy Welling. Tommy, good afternoon to you, sir. It is good to see you. It is good to be back online. How are you?

Yeah. Well, Scott, how are you.

Awesome man. Heck of a week. Just it's it was, it was nuts. But I'm so glad it's over and hopefully that is the end of it.

Yeah, that's a little bit of an understatement, we we definitely went dark for a little while there, literally and figuratively, and it's nice to be back.

Yeah, if you guys heard our last podcast, that was a trip down memory lane with one of our first early adopters of the old mad lifestyle. Candace, just an incredible episode if you didn't listen to it, because it wasn't the standard format that you're not used to Tommy and I bantering back and forth, I encourage you to go back and listen to it. But we are back on track. We are alive and well. We are safe and sound. Power is on, I should say. Heat is restored, but it's going to be like 70 tomorrow. So we don't need heat anymore because welcome to South Texas. Did not think we'd have a snow apocalypse. You know, after the most recent craziness we've had with weather. But the past couple of years, you had double hurricane. We've had 50 inches of rain, historic storms. So hopefully things come in threes.

So we've had our we've had our three and now we can move on and just, yeah, I don't want to move farther south. I really like this area, but I really hate the cold, too.

Yeah, it's it's been interesting, but ready to get back on track here. And and it was interesting though to go through that. And, you know, just just in case you don't know, we have a few days there of just power outages and rolling blackouts and extreme weather events. And it was it was interesting because I hadn't been through anything quite like that, at least from the cold aspect, having been in Texas most of my life. And I learned a few things, and I think that's where that's where some of this conversation is going to come from today to it.

Yeah, and if you're new to the podcast, you can always go to our website, download the Fast Start guide. We ask for your email, will zip it over to your inbox. If you're looking for the basics of what we believe when it comes to fasting and what breaks a fast and all those little questions. That kind of come up in the beginning or if you're new to fasting or if you've fasted before and then kind of gotten away from it, so you can always go to our Web site, download the fast our guide. You can go back and listen to some of the previous episodes where we talk about the specific topics. And then we also have our rapidly growing fasting for life community group on Facebook, where you can go and post questions as well. It's a really cool new community and we're in there monitoring it. And we have a moderator. Casey shout out to you is doing a great job. So just different ways you can engage with us. And for tonight, for today, tell me. I really want to take what you just set up is that conversation of having these realizations while going through a period where you don't have control, you don't have control of the outside world, you don't have control of where you can go. You don't have control of simply being able to turn the heat on and making sure that your kids are warm for the night. Right.

So there's a lot.

There's a lot to unpack there, and then we want to make sure that we land the plane with some really cool research that's come out with with a systemic review of twenty seven different studies that look at intermittent fasting and kind of talk through some of the benefits that really matter to us and things that we found interesting. But to get back to your conversation starter, Tommy, it was.

Cool to see that in the midst of a period of, you know, where things were at a major period of where things were out of our control.

One thing I didn't ever really have to worry about was eating. And I know that sounds really odd and kind of simplistic, but I know you have a couple of conversations and stories that you've had. And then we can also relate this to kind of the last year. If you guys are in Australia listening from Europe, if you're in the United States, Texas differs from California, which differs from New England, which differs from South Dakota and kind of how we've been then dealing with the chaos and the roller coaster of 20, 20. So I think it's going to be a good conversation.

Yeah, I feel like what we just went through with with just some three days worth of of no power, no heat, you know, groceries at risk, weren't really sure where to get more food if you actually did need some kind of just put a point to what's been happening over the last year or so with with some of those pieces of control kind of being taken away or put on pause here and there where there's been a lot of question marks for a lot of us, some people working from home now or we're not really sure when they'll they'll have their next big social gathering or things like that. Like there's just a lot of things that are a little abnormal over the last year or so that that have been relatively stable. Well, you know, just those last few days last week.

You know, we have somehow ramped it up like it's like, yeah, we've had all of this stuff, like we're working from home or we're not able to go to the gym in certain areas. My wife's dad lives in the Philippines and they need a pass just to, like, leave their street behind. So like and then we're here in the states in Texas, and all of a sudden it's like, nope, can't go anywhere. Roads, your iced you have no power. And oh, by the way, we don't know when it's coming back on.

Yeah, all of a sudden, like grocery stores are done, they're all shut down pretty much, or they that a line around the block where they did a midnight let in one, one or two people at a time, you know, but there's hundreds of people lined up.

It was just it got weird just all of a sudden. And at the same time, just like you said, like I didn't I didn't have to worry about when I was going to eat my next meal like I was I was concerned, especially for the kids, like, OK, what groceries do we have on hand? Let's keep the groceries. We have good. Which we actually just take took them and put them right outside on the back porch because it was 15 degrees outside. I didn't know. I'm like, what? Yeah, but I didn't know when the fridge was coming back on, which is weird. Like I've never had that thought ever. I've never had that concern. And I know a lot of people have. But, you know, just just not being worried about where my next meal was coming from is not something I could have said two years ago. I would have been freaked out four or five hours later, not not just sitting in the calm, cool and collected seat.

And it's interesting because we have some some friends and mentors, some colleagues up north of the border in California excuse me, Canada, big difference. And there was one point last week where it it was like negative. Thirty four degrees and one of the provinces and then one of our colleagues in Puerto Rico was like, hey, it's eighty four degrees here today. It's like one hundred and forty degree difference or something crazy.

So all the people up there are probably looking at us going you got two inches of snow, you got one one tiny little ice storm like, come on.

And I'm like, yeah, I know. But it's hard to winterize stuff in Texas that's not meant to be winterized.

Like, you know, there's people way worse off than us. I mean, I can imagine, you know, having a pipe burst and there's been tons and hundreds of stories where pipes have burst and water is coming through the ceiling. And, you know, as we pivoted and we got our kids out of the house and got them to my aunt's house, which had a fireplace and, you know, it was a smaller footprint of heat. And they had they had power. They had rolling outages where we just had outages like ours just wasn't coming back on. And I came back and stayed with the dogs and made a little pop up tent and, you know, made it work. But, you know, it allowed me to take my focus. And we're going to land the plane here and relate it back to day to day life and fasting. But it allowed me to take my focus from all of the worry of, like, OK, OK, I have to worry about when I'm going to eat and when the next meal is coming in.

And it was really just like, OK, I'm shoveling snow into Ziploc bags to make sure that we don't lose the food. And then I can bring the food to my family. And then the next thing was, OK, my toilet's froze. OK, well, how am I going to fix that? OK, well, now I'm up in the attic checking to see if there's snow in the rafters and we're going to potentially plug any of those holes. And then when the power did come on, it was making the space heaters were on the right pipes and making sure the stuff outside and making sure the dogs were fine. And so it was like this rolling continual like pivot this change this the next day was something different where it was. OK, well, now we have a water boil in effect. What the heck is that?

I've never experienced that before. So it just was like I never had to worry about anything but making sure that I could handle the next curveball that was coming. And I think that's the parallel to the previous year. And then we can relate this back to your day to day life in terms of your health, your decisions, your your weight loss, your weight gain, whatever it is. There's a parallel there that hopefully we can kind of construct.

Yeah, because, you know, all those things that you just listed, I, I felt the same way in the moment. It was interesting because we really couldn't communicate. We didn't you know, most of the time we didn't have cell phone service, let alone know.

Right. Right. Yeah.

So couldn't couldn't hardly send a text back and forth, but when we kind of cut up after the fact and realized we're going through the same thing and having the same thoughts. But, you know, I put myself back in the same situation or rewind a couple of years and I wouldn't have been able to deal with a lot of those things in the same strategic kind of like results oriented. Let's let's fix it and get to the next problem kind of mindset. If if if I was worried about, you know, the very next meal or you just those those rolling kind of hunger pangs that it may take a few hours to to kind of get past that. But if you've never if you've never done that, never done an extended extended fast, it can be hard to see what what that should look like and and how you're going to get through the next few hours, let alone the next couple of days if you're not sure where it's coming from.

Yeah. And someone would be sitting here thinking, you're really going to compare like a a national emergency where like you've lost an entire power grid for one of the most energy independent states in the country to fasting. Well, yeah, we are. So I know you were you were having a conversation with a friend or coworker or someone that. Lives more out in the country and, you know, you elaborated or eloquently explained, like the difference that you've seen in this person, you know, over the months to years or whatever it has been.

And it was just another cool perspective of like, yeah, I got this. I've got control in an uncontrollable environment. I have control over one thing and it's literally me and one I'm going to eat.

And if I have to worry about that for me as an individual.

Yeah. I mean, and she's she's probably lost, you know, I don't know, 40, 50 pounds in the last few years using fasting. And what I what I realized is what I saw her I asked her how how she was kind of doing through it and then how everyone around her was was doing with it. And she said that they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off because they're not sure which grocery store or which fast food restaurant was going to be open.

And they thought, oh, my God, the fast food restaurants told me I saw people like like 70, 80 cars down the road.

Yeah. Waiting in line. Yep. I saw too. I saw it.

Sorry I forgot about that until you just said.

Yeah. I mean and you were battling through just, just some snow and ice but mostly blackouts. You couldn't see anything to you till you got to particular places that just happened to be open. But yeah, just lines around the block. And and what I was thinking was, I mean, how bad do you want a hamburger? Like, are you willing to wait two or three hours? Like you must be really feeling it, that that you need it that bad. And so and she said everyone was just running around like crazy around here, just kind of but kind of paralyzed, but because they didn't know exactly where where they were going to get that that, that, that value meal or, you know, their their grocery store when it was going to open. And and and she said, OK, well, you know, I got this. I've I've gone five or six days without eating before. I've done it longer, fast. I'm good. Like give me the projects. And then, you know, she was she was feeling good or energy was up. She was with clear focus. No, no brain fog.

And she felt like she was operating at a whole different level from everyone around her and and just, you know, not not being worried about the same things that they were. So when she said that, I kind of realized I've been operating the same way, you know, without that that kind of mental roadblock.

And here's one of the cool things is like, you know, with the the world wide issues and the pandemic and all the stuff that we don't typically talk a lot about, we focus on what we can control. And that's kind of one of our family values as well, is control what you can control. And one of the easiest things you can control is, you know. I should say it this way, fasting is one of the most sustainable ways in which you're able to control and build a healthy lifestyle regardless, it's adaptable, regardless of any of the curveballs that the outside world might throw at you.

So, yeah, to kind of parallel this and bring this into how does this apply? This is a fasting podcast, right. How does this apply to fasting? How does this apply to my day to day life? How does this apply to my weight loss journey?

Well, it really is.

And we talk about this one of the easiest ways that you can reclaim control of something simple that's close to you, that you have one hundred percent control over and.

I'm going to say this, I'll be the bad cop for a minute, and hopefully you can you can bring me back, is that looking at this situation, looking at the previous year of what we've just gone through or comparing it to, you know, sitting in the in the fast food line, maybe people just want to get out of the house or maybe that they had kids, that they had no food in the house, or maybe there was an extreme circumstance where we were talking like forty eight hours of power loss, maybe a little bit longer. So nothing too crazy.

So my thought is next time, the next time they're going through something like this are going through the previous year of stuff in control and loss of control and all this stuff that changes that we've had to go through as a society is the next time the cookie calls to you from the pantry or the next time you think like, oh, man, I'm just so hungry. I need to eat, like, really?

Like, really comparing it to all of the other stuff that you've been through over the last year like that is such a small, minuscule problem in the greater scheme of things.

So my encouragement coming out of that would be. If you have the the direction and the desire to make a change, nothing should stand in your way if you want to kind of reframe it in the light of the things that you've been able to achieve over the last 12 months when curveballs have been thrown at you.

Yeah, I like that what I heard was what used to feel like an elephant of a problem is maybe more like a mosquito of a problem, but sometimes it takes going through something a little tougher and understanding your own your own sense of power and control that you have in order to see it from from that particular lens. Right.

Right, right. And it's it's you know, there's there's been a lot of other side effects of what, you know, of everything that's been going on in the world since last spring.

And, you know, people not being able to see loved ones and, you know, the just all of this other emotional stuff that comes with it.

And if we're able to get through that, then this whole, like, losing 20 pounds, things shouldn't be that difficult. Right? Like, right. And we want to empower you to know that the fasting benefits and the science of fasting is really starting to ramp up like, you know, ten years ago, fasting has been around forever. Tried and true.

It's been around for ages, you know, periods of feasting, periods of fasting, periods of feasting, periods of famine, like our body is equipped to adapt and equipped to be able to handle those periods where food is not abundant. We want to take that and apply it to a situation where you can get great results by combining.

You know, your your desire to want to lose the weight or change your health and combining that simply with just putting intermittent fasting into your day to day and just staying consistent with it. And that's why I love this study that was published in February of Twenty Twenty, where it's the research article that reviews twenty seven different trials. And in these trials there's all different variations.

Randomized trials, nine trials comparing weight after IVF to baseline studies were short duration, two to twenty six weeks, ten to two hundred and twenty for two hundred and forty four participants, couple that were of a year duration protocols varied. Five studies specifically, you know, including patients with Type two diabetes.

But the overall consensus of giving you back control is that intermittent fasting is that piece, that missing piece for a lot of you. And it just hasn't been consistent enough. And hopefully some of these these highlights that you and I really love, Tommy will give some people out there, one with the framework that we just talked through of of having the ability to realize that you've done some tough stuff in the last 12 to 14 months and that you're you're going to be able to lose that 20 pounds and intermittent fasting hopefully is going to be the tool to get you there.

Yeah. What I heard you mentioned a couple times there is is this simplicity with with the control, like you have all the tools you need to implement an intermittent fasting lifestyle to get you to those goals, those health goals, those those weight loss goals.

Because if you think about it, just during a short power outage, like there was no supplement shop, there was no all the gyms were closed. Even the grocery stores were closed like. But I couldn't I couldn't get cellular data either.

So if I needed to track all my macros, all those were all those were all.

All of all of my you know, who track silk, my wife.

Yeah, well, I'm sure she figured out a way Rice probably did pen and paper there for a minute if she needed to. And, you know, that's good. She's committed to it. I love that. But, you know, it's the ability to be able to keep things simple, even in the face of adversity.

Whatever challenges are coming up or being thrown thrown in your way is is is such a cool thing. And then, you know, the other thing you mentioned, there was consistency, keeping it consistent, because, I mean, we hear from a lot of people who say, well, I've done some intermittent fasting in the past. I've done some 16 hour fasts. And and I've I've dabbled with some mad and things like that, but never really saw the results step. But I think that's such a huge point, is just that consistency, because adapting intermittent fasting as a lifestyle is very different from just trying a 16 hour fast or a 20 hour fast here and there and then not really seeing magic happen immediately. Well, you know, big things take time, but at the same time, that can get the ball rolling. That just needs some consistency to keep it going.

And that also speaks to the whole diet mentality and the diet world where you're going to try something, you're going to do something for 60 or 90 days, where we talk about the insulin from the lifestyle and the fasting lifestyle like this is something that I'm always going to do. I feel better. I have better energy. My weight's maintained like I'm happier. My wife loves me more because I'm less angry all the time. Like all of this stuff. Right. I deal. I handle the kids better, like a better dad.

Like all that stuff comes from that lifestyle. And some of the cool stuff that came out of this review was there was a weight loss anywhere from eight to 13 percent across all the studies. The weight loss occurred regardless of and I know you're going to go into this little more detail of changes in overall caloric intake. Body mass index is decreased by four point three percent. Symptoms such as hunger remain stable or decreased, and there were no adverse events reported. So while if is moderately successful for weight loss, it also shows other promising things. And we've talked a lot about different research things on our podcast. It shows promise for improving glycemic control, which is one of the main issues that can relate to be directly related to weight loss, resistance, insulin resistance and things like diabetes, which we know is is a rapidly just like our waist size in this country is a rapidly growing problem. And then you have all those other health issues that come along with having the excess weight in the blood sugar related issues. So just a really cool overview. And then I know we want to hit a couple of the highlights and then kind of land the plane with some action steps.

Well, I love the results table on this on the study as well, because what you can see there is focusing on specific patient populations.

So one of which was Type two diabetes. And just the fact that the results were showing that intermittent fasting is more effective than caloric restriction for weight loss and glycemic control in those type two diabetics.

And and that's exactly what we'd expect as well, because when when you've reached the point of Type two diabetes, that means your your insulin resistance is so high that you're you're essentially you're you're almost nonresponsive. You know, you're getting to a point of non responsiveness in your insulin receptors.

So the weight loss becomes more and more difficult at that point as you get further and further down the line from pre diabetes to type two diabetes. And then obviously you can it can continue to get worse over time there as well. But intermittent fasting was more effective than caloric restriction for the weight loss in those patients, which that's that's that's a huge outcome right there.

And it's some of these excuse me, some of these studies will show if it's effective for weight loss with a high fat or low fat diet composition. So there's flexibility in their weight loss. And maintenance is similar in intermittent fasting and calorie caloric restriction. Weight loss and maintenance are similar across different different metrics. One of the other ones that I that I like was intermittent. Fasting with a high protein diet is effective for weight loss with low risk of re weight, regain intermittent fasting, promotes weight loss and weight maintenance similar to calorie restriction. So for me, the calorie restriction never worked and never took into that that hormonal imbalance where you had that resistance, which was not allowing you to lose the weight like everybody else. So there's a lot of similarities here, but there's also a lot of flexibility in making this lifestyle fit your life specifically. So we talk about regaining control, but there's also the ability to really fit anything that you prefer, however you prefer to live your life. Vegan carb protein, carnivore, whole 30, low carb high. Fat, high carb, low fat, whatever it is like, you can make fasting, get results for you.

And that's one of the biggest takeaways for me with this. This this review is that like.

For us, the easiest way to get caloric restriction and simplify your life is to omit the constant feeding, the constant food, the constant decision making that comes along with it. Some of the coolest things that we hear in our challenges, by the way, we have another 10 day challenge coming up on March 18th.

Yeah. So just a few short weeks away. But one of the coolest things people like, I get to wake up in the morning and like, not have to think like I can just go throughout my day and not have to worry about it. And it's just so freeing.

Yeah, it absolutely is. I mean, just that I mean, just the ability to to tackle other things and think about other priorities when normally I would have just been OK.

It's been a couple of hours. What what's the next meal? Who am I going to get together with or what am I going to actually sit down? What am I going to pack for? For food tomorrow, for lunch, et cetera. I mean, the list goes on.

We can we can spend a good portion of our day thinking about the next meal or a few meals later versus having all of that that time and focus and energy to to direct towards other things.

You know, one of the other results from the study that I wanted to mention, too, was combining calorie restriction and intermittent fasting being more effective for weight loss than either alone, which I think is a is a really is a really big one, because that that's one that keeps a lot of people from from really kind of hitting the gas when they first get started with intermittent fasting. I think because there's there's a big fear and concern that that most of us have kind of heard about getting all of our calories in and making sure that we're we're like fueling the metabolic fire. We don't want to we don't want the metabolism to die, you know, that kind of thing. And. So, you know, sometimes just having one meal a day, just starting there, which which we know is is a powerful method, but just the fact that you may not be getting all of those calories in within that one meal each day, that's that's part of the effectiveness of a one meal a day system. But right now, we have we have some research to back up. Combining combining the calorie restriction with the intermittent fasting is more effective than than either of them alone. So I think that's that's really important to know.

Yeah. And it's interesting because we continue to have this conversation. And, you know, one of the flaws and having to record a intro to a old recorded interview or testimonial with one of our early adopters sitting in the dark running off of battery power in my kitchen last week, is that we want these podcasts in these conversations to be like real time and as conversational as possible. So this is one of the things that we is one of the most challenged questions like, OK, what do I do now? Well, if you want to continually have some aggressive fat loss and stick with a more aggressive fasting plan, no matter greater, if you're more of the maintenance and you want to do kind of the low and slow, you've got the opportunity to to just simply skip one meal a day.

And right there, as long as you don't go open feeding season during your feet, your window, let's say you're eating from four to eight p.m., then you're going to be setting yourself up for success in the most simplistic way that we can find without having to do all the other tracking and things that that my wife actually succeeds with.

But she's she's a small subset. She's not she's not the main, the mainstay or the norm, I should say.

So I really like the the outcome not never mind.

Are we going to put this in simply and give yourself a lot of variability and flexibility and progress without pressure.

So measuring the progress, without putting all that extra pressure on you.

You know, the other benefits here, like blood pressure changes, body weight changes, BMI, glucose improvements when see decreases in insulin levels. There was all this other cool stuff that came out of here, which is more along the lines of why we came to fasting, which was to get the weight off and more importantly, improve our long term health.

So if there's any encouragement for me, Tommy, and then if anything you want to say to kind of land the plane as you do so eloquently, when I kind of get up in the air and don't, you know, kind of just keep going down these rabbit holes, it's it's really that fasting allows you to regain control of your life at a time when so much is left out of outside of your control.

And if you're struggling with the decisions or you're struggling with what to do, then that's why we created the Fast Start guide and you can just go to our website and download it for free, become part of our group, and just start asking more questions and keep the conversation going with us and we'll help you along the way.

Yeah, I think I think the only thing I want to add to that is what I when I reflect back to right before I started getting serious about fasting versus now just just what I didn't understand then was that.

I was keeping things so complicated, I was looking for the next little puzzle piece to put together to make the perfect solution to regaining my own health, losing the weight for good, when when in fact, the answer was right there in front of me. It was it was the simplification of it. That was it was so simple that I had been missing it the whole time. I was almost I had almost been hesitant or scared to even try it. And and once once I once I started once I just got started and saw just a couple of of wins quickly. Then it all started to really just fit into place. So I think that's the only thing I wanted to add.

Ok, love it. Love it. Love, love it. So yeah, I could really keep this conversation just going around kind of what the realization of what we've been through, you know, over the last 12 to 14 months individually as a society, you know, the different struggles and curveballs we've had at us. But if you're you've had some big life changes happen. You know, one of the easiest ways to to regain some of that control is simply, like you said, Tommy, just staying consistent and putting it in in a simple manner.

So go to our website, the fasting for Life Dotcom download the Fast Start guide, become part of our fasting for life community on Facebook. We've got our challenge coming up on March 18th. We're super excited to be doing more of these this year because the results have been incredible. And as always, Tommy, thank you so much for your time. Thank you guys for listening. I appreciate your patience with our pivot last week. But we are back on track and we are ready to rock and roll.

Perfect. Thank you.

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Fasting For Life Ep. 61

[00:00:01] Hello, I'm Dr. Scott Watier, and I'm Tommy Welling, and you're listening to the Fasting for Life podcast, and this podcast is about using fasting as a tool to regain your health, achieve ultimate wellness and live the life you truly deserve.

[00:00:15] Each episode is a short conversation on a single topic with immediate, actionable steps. We cover everything from fat loss on health and wellness to the science of lifestyle design.

[00:00:25] We started fasting for life because of how fasting has transformed our lives, and we hope to share the tools that we have learned along the way.

[00:00:40] Everyone, welcome to the Fasting for Life podcast. My name is Dr. Scott Watier, and I'm here, as always, am a good friend and colleague, Tommy Welling. Tommy, good afternoon to you, sir. It is good to see you. It is good to be back online. How are you?

[00:00:51] Yeah. Well, Scott, how are you.

[00:00:53] Awesome man. Heck of a week. Just it's it was, it was nuts. But I'm so glad it's over and hopefully that is the end of it.

[00:01:04] Yeah, that's a little bit of an understatement, we we definitely went dark for a little while there, literally and figuratively, and it's nice to be back.

[00:01:13] Yeah, if you guys heard our last podcast, that was a trip down memory lane with one of our first early adopters of the old mad lifestyle. Candace, just an incredible episode if you didn't listen to it, because it wasn't the standard format that you're not used to Tommy and I bantering back and forth, I encourage you to go back and listen to it. But we are back on track. We are alive and well. We are safe and sound. Power is on, I should say. Heat is restored, but it's going to be like 70 tomorrow. So we don't need heat anymore because welcome to South Texas. Did not think we'd have a snow apocalypse. You know, after the most recent craziness we've had with weather. But the past couple of years, you had double hurricane. We've had 50 inches of rain, historic storms. So hopefully things come in threes.

[00:01:59] So we've had our we've had our three and now we can move on and just, yeah, I don't want to move farther south. I really like this area, but I really hate the cold, too.

[00:02:10] Yeah, it's it's been interesting, but ready to get back on track here. And and it was interesting though to go through that. And, you know, just just in case you don't know, we have a few days there of just power outages and rolling blackouts and extreme weather events. And it was it was interesting because I hadn't been through anything quite like that, at least from the cold aspect, having been in Texas most of my life. And I learned a few things, and I think that's where that's where some of this conversation is going to come from today to it.

[00:02:45] Yeah, and if you're new to the podcast, you can always go to our website, download the Fast Start guide. We ask for your email, will zip it over to your inbox. If you're looking for the basics of what we believe when it comes to fasting and what breaks a fast and all those little questions. That kind of come up in the beginning or if you're new to fasting or if you've fasted before and then kind of gotten away from it, so you can always go to our Web site, download the fast our guide. You can go back and listen to some of the previous episodes where we talk about the specific topics. And then we also have our rapidly growing fasting for life community group on Facebook, where you can go and post questions as well. It's a really cool new community and we're in there monitoring it. And we have a moderator. Casey shout out to you is doing a great job. So just different ways you can engage with us. And for tonight, for today, tell me. I really want to take what you just set up is that conversation of having these realizations while going through a period where you don't have control, you don't have control of the outside world, you don't have control of where you can go. You don't have control of simply being able to turn the heat on and making sure that your kids are warm for the night. Right.

[00:03:55] So there's a lot.

[00:03:58] There's a lot to unpack there, and then we want to make sure that we land the plane with some really cool research that's come out with with a systemic review of twenty seven different studies that look at intermittent fasting and kind of talk through some of the benefits that really matter to us and things that we found interesting. But to get back to your conversation starter, Tommy, it was.

[00:04:24] Cool to see that in the midst of a period of, you know, where things were at a major period of where things were out of our control.

[00:04:36] One thing I didn't ever really have to worry about was eating. And I know that sounds really odd and kind of simplistic, but I know you have a couple of conversations and stories that you've had. And then we can also relate this to kind of the last year. If you guys are in Australia listening from Europe, if you're in the United States, Texas differs from California, which differs from New England, which differs from South Dakota and kind of how we've been then dealing with the chaos and the roller coaster of 20, 20. So I think it's going to be a good conversation.

[00:05:07] Yeah, I feel like what we just went through with with just some three days worth of of no power, no heat, you know, groceries at risk, weren't really sure where to get more food if you actually did need some kind of just put a point to what's been happening over the last year or so with with some of those pieces of control kind of being taken away or put on pause here and there where there's been a lot of question marks for a lot of us, some people working from home now or we're not really sure when they'll they'll have their next big social gathering or things like that. Like there's just a lot of things that are a little abnormal over the last year or so that that have been relatively stable. Well, you know, just those last few days last week.

[00:06:00] You know, we have somehow ramped it up like it's like, yeah, we've had all of this stuff, like we're working from home or we're not able to go to the gym in certain areas. My wife's dad lives in the Philippines and they need a pass just to, like, leave their street behind. So like and then we're here in the states in Texas, and all of a sudden it's like, nope, can't go anywhere. Roads, your iced you have no power. And oh, by the way, we don't know when it's coming back on.

[00:06:28] Yeah, all of a sudden, like grocery stores are done, they're all shut down pretty much, or they that a line around the block where they did a midnight let in one, one or two people at a time, you know, but there's hundreds of people lined up.

[00:06:40] It was just it got weird just all of a sudden. And at the same time, just like you said, like I didn't I didn't have to worry about when I was going to eat my next meal like I was I was concerned, especially for the kids, like, OK, what groceries do we have on hand? Let's keep the groceries. We have good. Which we actually just take took them and put them right outside on the back porch because it was 15 degrees outside. I didn't know. I'm like, what? Yeah, but I didn't know when the fridge was coming back on, which is weird. Like I've never had that thought ever. I've never had that concern. And I know a lot of people have. But, you know, just just not being worried about where my next meal was coming from is not something I could have said two years ago. I would have been freaked out four or five hours later, not not just sitting in the calm, cool and collected seat.

[00:07:34] And it's interesting because we have some some friends and mentors, some colleagues up north of the border in California excuse me, Canada, big difference. And there was one point last week where it it was like negative. Thirty four degrees and one of the provinces and then one of our colleagues in Puerto Rico was like, hey, it's eighty four degrees here today. It's like one hundred and forty degree difference or something crazy.

[00:07:58] So all the people up there are probably looking at us going you got two inches of snow, you got one one tiny little ice storm like, come on.

[00:08:07] And I'm like, yeah, I know. But it's hard to winterize stuff in Texas that's not meant to be winterized.

[00:08:14] Like, you know, there's people way worse off than us. I mean, I can imagine, you know, having a pipe burst and there's been tons and hundreds of stories where pipes have burst and water is coming through the ceiling. And, you know, as we pivoted and we got our kids out of the house and got them to my aunt's house, which had a fireplace and, you know, it was a smaller footprint of heat. And they had they had power. They had rolling outages where we just had outages like ours just wasn't coming back on. And I came back and stayed with the dogs and made a little pop up tent and, you know, made it work. But, you know, it allowed me to take my focus. And we're going to land the plane here and relate it back to day to day life and fasting. But it allowed me to take my focus from all of the worry of, like, OK, OK, I have to worry about when I'm going to eat and when the next meal is coming in.

[00:09:03] And it was really just like, OK, I'm shoveling snow into Ziploc bags to make sure that we don't lose the food. And then I can bring the food to my family. And then the next thing was, OK, my toilet's froze. OK, well, how am I going to fix that? OK, well, now I'm up in the attic checking to see if there's snow in the rafters and we're going to potentially plug any of those holes. And then when the power did come on, it was making the space heaters were on the right pipes and making sure the stuff outside and making sure the dogs were fine. And so it was like this rolling continual like pivot this change this the next day was something different where it was. OK, well, now we have a water boil in effect. What the heck is that?

[00:09:38] I've never experienced that before. So it just was like I never had to worry about anything but making sure that I could handle the next curveball that was coming. And I think that's the parallel to the previous year. And then we can relate this back to your day to day life in terms of your health, your decisions, your your weight loss, your weight gain, whatever it is. There's a parallel there that hopefully we can kind of construct.

[00:10:05] Yeah, because, you know, all those things that you just listed, I, I felt the same way in the moment. It was interesting because we really couldn't communicate. We didn't you know, most of the time we didn't have cell phone service, let alone know.

[00:10:18] Right. Right. Yeah.

[00:10:20] So couldn't couldn't hardly send a text back and forth, but when we kind of cut up after the fact and realized we're going through the same thing and having the same thoughts. But, you know, I put myself back in the same situation or rewind a couple of years and I wouldn't have been able to deal with a lot of those things in the same strategic kind of like results oriented. Let's let's fix it and get to the next problem kind of mindset. If if if I was worried about, you know, the very next meal or you just those those rolling kind of hunger pangs that it may take a few hours to to kind of get past that. But if you've never if you've never done that, never done an extended extended fast, it can be hard to see what what that should look like and and how you're going to get through the next few hours, let alone the next couple of days if you're not sure where it's coming from.

[00:11:11] Yeah. And someone would be sitting here thinking, you're really going to compare like a a national emergency where like you've lost an entire power grid for one of the most energy independent states in the country to fasting. Well, yeah, we are. So I know you were you were having a conversation with a friend or coworker or someone that. Lives more out in the country and, you know, you elaborated or eloquently explained, like the difference that you've seen in this person, you know, over the months to years or whatever it has been.

[00:11:40] And it was just another cool perspective of like, yeah, I got this. I've got control in an uncontrollable environment. I have control over one thing and it's literally me and one I'm going to eat.

[00:11:52] And if I have to worry about that for me as an individual.

[00:11:56] Yeah. I mean, and she's she's probably lost, you know, I don't know, 40, 50 pounds in the last few years using fasting. And what I what I realized is what I saw her I asked her how how she was kind of doing through it and then how everyone around her was was doing with it. And she said that they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off because they're not sure which grocery store or which fast food restaurant was going to be open.

[00:12:22] And they thought, oh, my God, the fast food restaurants told me I saw people like like 70, 80 cars down the road.

[00:12:30] Yeah. Waiting in line. Yep. I saw too. I saw it.

[00:12:36] Sorry I forgot about that until you just said.

[00:12:39] Yeah. I mean and you were battling through just, just some snow and ice but mostly blackouts. You couldn't see anything to you till you got to particular places that just happened to be open. But yeah, just lines around the block. And and what I was thinking was, I mean, how bad do you want a hamburger? Like, are you willing to wait two or three hours? Like you must be really feeling it, that that you need it that bad. And so and she said everyone was just running around like crazy around here, just kind of but kind of paralyzed, but because they didn't know exactly where where they were going to get that that, that, that value meal or, you know, their their grocery store when it was going to open. And and and she said, OK, well, you know, I got this. I've I've gone five or six days without eating before. I've done it longer, fast. I'm good. Like give me the projects. And then, you know, she was she was feeling good or energy was up. She was with clear focus. No, no brain fog.

[00:13:35] And she felt like she was operating at a whole different level from everyone around her and and just, you know, not not being worried about the same things that they were. So when she said that, I kind of realized I've been operating the same way, you know, without that that kind of mental roadblock.

[00:13:53] And here's one of the cool things is like, you know, with the the world wide issues and the pandemic and all the stuff that we don't typically talk a lot about, we focus on what we can control. And that's kind of one of our family values as well, is control what you can control. And one of the easiest things you can control is, you know. I should say it this way, fasting is one of the most sustainable ways in which you're able to control and build a healthy lifestyle regardless, it's adaptable, regardless of any of the curveballs that the outside world might throw at you.

[00:14:27] So, yeah, to kind of parallel this and bring this into how does this apply? This is a fasting podcast, right. How does this apply to fasting? How does this apply to my day to day life? How does this apply to my weight loss journey?

[00:14:39] Well, it really is.

[00:14:42] And we talk about this one of the easiest ways that you can reclaim control of something simple that's close to you, that you have one hundred percent control over and.

[00:14:50] I'm going to say this, I'll be the bad cop for a minute, and hopefully you can you can bring me back, is that looking at this situation, looking at the previous year of what we've just gone through or comparing it to, you know, sitting in the in the fast food line, maybe people just want to get out of the house or maybe that they had kids, that they had no food in the house, or maybe there was an extreme circumstance where we were talking like forty eight hours of power loss, maybe a little bit longer. So nothing too crazy.

[00:15:18] So my thought is next time, the next time they're going through something like this are going through the previous year of stuff in control and loss of control and all this stuff that changes that we've had to go through as a society is the next time the cookie calls to you from the pantry or the next time you think like, oh, man, I'm just so hungry. I need to eat, like, really?

[00:15:41] Like, really comparing it to all of the other stuff that you've been through over the last year like that is such a small, minuscule problem in the greater scheme of things.

[00:15:55] So my encouragement coming out of that would be. If you have the the direction and the desire to make a change, nothing should stand in your way if you want to kind of reframe it in the light of the things that you've been able to achieve over the last 12 months when curveballs have been thrown at you.

[00:16:18] Yeah, I like that what I heard was what used to feel like an elephant of a problem is maybe more like a mosquito of a problem, but sometimes it takes going through something a little tougher and understanding your own your own sense of power and control that you have in order to see it from from that particular lens. Right.

[00:16:43] Right, right. And it's it's you know, there's there's been a lot of other side effects of what, you know, of everything that's been going on in the world since last spring.

[00:16:55] And, you know, people not being able to see loved ones and, you know, the just all of this other emotional stuff that comes with it.

[00:17:04] And if we're able to get through that, then this whole, like, losing 20 pounds, things shouldn't be that difficult. Right? Like, right. And we want to empower you to know that the fasting benefits and the science of fasting is really starting to ramp up like, you know, ten years ago, fasting has been around forever. Tried and true.

[00:17:22] It's been around for ages, you know, periods of feasting, periods of fasting, periods of feasting, periods of famine, like our body is equipped to adapt and equipped to be able to handle those periods where food is not abundant. We want to take that and apply it to a situation where you can get great results by combining.

[00:17:48] You know, your your desire to want to lose the weight or change your health and combining that simply with just putting intermittent fasting into your day to day and just staying consistent with it. And that's why I love this study that was published in February of Twenty Twenty, where it's the research article that reviews twenty seven different trials. And in these trials there's all different variations.

[00:18:16] Randomized trials, nine trials comparing weight after IVF to baseline studies were short duration, two to twenty six weeks, ten to two hundred and twenty for two hundred and forty four participants, couple that were of a year duration protocols varied. Five studies specifically, you know, including patients with Type two diabetes.

[00:18:36] But the overall consensus of giving you back control is that intermittent fasting is that piece, that missing piece for a lot of you. And it just hasn't been consistent enough. And hopefully some of these these highlights that you and I really love, Tommy will give some people out there, one with the framework that we just talked through of of having the ability to realize that you've done some tough stuff in the last 12 to 14 months and that you're you're going to be able to lose that 20 pounds and intermittent fasting hopefully is going to be the tool to get you there.

[00:19:06] Yeah. What I heard you mentioned a couple times there is is this simplicity with with the control, like you have all the tools you need to implement an intermittent fasting lifestyle to get you to those goals, those health goals, those those weight loss goals.

[00:19:23] Because if you think about it, just during a short power outage, like there was no supplement shop, there was no all the gyms were closed. Even the grocery stores were closed like. But I couldn't I couldn't get cellular data either.

[00:19:38] So if I needed to track all my macros, all those were all those were all.

[00:19:43] All of all of my you know, who track silk, my wife.

[00:19:48] Yeah, well, I'm sure she figured out a way Rice probably did pen and paper there for a minute if she needed to. And, you know, that's good. She's committed to it. I love that. But, you know, it's the ability to be able to keep things simple, even in the face of adversity.

[00:20:04] Whatever challenges are coming up or being thrown thrown in your way is is is such a cool thing. And then, you know, the other thing you mentioned, there was consistency, keeping it consistent, because, I mean, we hear from a lot of people who say, well, I've done some intermittent fasting in the past. I've done some 16 hour fasts. And and I've I've dabbled with some mad and things like that, but never really saw the results step. But I think that's such a huge point, is just that consistency, because adapting intermittent fasting as a lifestyle is very different from just trying a 16 hour fast or a 20 hour fast here and there and then not really seeing magic happen immediately. Well, you know, big things take time, but at the same time, that can get the ball rolling. That just needs some consistency to keep it going.

[00:20:48] And that also speaks to the whole diet mentality and the diet world where you're going to try something, you're going to do something for 60 or 90 days, where we talk about the insulin from the lifestyle and the fasting lifestyle like this is something that I'm always going to do. I feel better. I have better energy. My weight's maintained like I'm happier. My wife loves me more because I'm less angry all the time. Like all of this stuff. Right. I deal. I handle the kids better, like a better dad.

[00:21:14] Like all that stuff comes from that lifestyle. And some of the cool stuff that came out of this review was there was a weight loss anywhere from eight to 13 percent across all the studies. The weight loss occurred regardless of and I know you're going to go into this little more detail of changes in overall caloric intake. Body mass index is decreased by four point three percent. Symptoms such as hunger remain stable or decreased, and there were no adverse events reported. So while if is moderately successful for weight loss, it also shows other promising things. And we've talked a lot about different research things on our podcast. It shows promise for improving glycemic control, which is one of the main issues that can relate to be directly related to weight loss, resistance, insulin resistance and things like diabetes, which we know is is a rapidly just like our waist size in this country is a rapidly growing problem. And then you have all those other health issues that come along with having the excess weight in the blood sugar related issues. So just a really cool overview. And then I know we want to hit a couple of the highlights and then kind of land the plane with some action steps.

[00:22:30] Well, I love the results table on this on the study as well, because what you can see there is focusing on specific patient populations.

[00:22:41] So one of which was Type two diabetes. And just the fact that the results were showing that intermittent fasting is more effective than caloric restriction for weight loss and glycemic control in those type two diabetics.

[00:22:55] And and that's exactly what we'd expect as well, because when when you've reached the point of Type two diabetes, that means your your insulin resistance is so high that you're you're essentially you're you're almost nonresponsive. You know, you're getting to a point of non responsiveness in your insulin receptors.

[00:23:16] So the weight loss becomes more and more difficult at that point as you get further and further down the line from pre diabetes to type two diabetes. And then obviously you can it can continue to get worse over time there as well. But intermittent fasting was more effective than caloric restriction for the weight loss in those patients, which that's that's that's a huge outcome right there.

[00:23:38] And it's some of these excuse me, some of these studies will show if it's effective for weight loss with a high fat or low fat diet composition. So there's flexibility in their weight loss. And maintenance is similar in intermittent fasting and calorie caloric restriction. Weight loss and maintenance are similar across different different metrics. One of the other ones that I that I like was intermittent. Fasting with a high protein diet is effective for weight loss with low risk of re weight, regain intermittent fasting, promotes weight loss and weight maintenance similar to calorie restriction. So for me, the calorie restriction never worked and never took into that that hormonal imbalance where you had that resistance, which was not allowing you to lose the weight like everybody else. So there's a lot of similarities here, but there's also a lot of flexibility in making this lifestyle fit your life specifically. So we talk about regaining control, but there's also the ability to really fit anything that you prefer, however you prefer to live your life. Vegan carb protein, carnivore, whole 30, low carb high. Fat, high carb, low fat, whatever it is like, you can make fasting, get results for you.

[00:24:53] And that's one of the biggest takeaways for me with this. This this review is that like.

[00:24:58] For us, the easiest way to get caloric restriction and simplify your life is to omit the constant feeding, the constant food, the constant decision making that comes along with it. Some of the coolest things that we hear in our challenges, by the way, we have another 10 day challenge coming up on March 18th.

[00:25:17] Yeah. So just a few short weeks away. But one of the coolest things people like, I get to wake up in the morning and like, not have to think like I can just go throughout my day and not have to worry about it. And it's just so freeing.

[00:25:32] Yeah, it absolutely is. I mean, just that I mean, just the ability to to tackle other things and think about other priorities when normally I would have just been OK.

[00:25:44] It's been a couple of hours. What what's the next meal? Who am I going to get together with or what am I going to actually sit down? What am I going to pack for? For food tomorrow, for lunch, et cetera. I mean, the list goes on.

[00:25:54] We can we can spend a good portion of our day thinking about the next meal or a few meals later versus having all of that that time and focus and energy to to direct towards other things.

[00:26:07] You know, one of the other results from the study that I wanted to mention, too, was combining calorie restriction and intermittent fasting being more effective for weight loss than either alone, which I think is a is a really is a really big one, because that that's one that keeps a lot of people from from really kind of hitting the gas when they first get started with intermittent fasting. I think because there's there's a big fear and concern that that most of us have kind of heard about getting all of our calories in and making sure that we're we're like fueling the metabolic fire. We don't want to we don't want the metabolism to die, you know, that kind of thing. And. So, you know, sometimes just having one meal a day, just starting there, which which we know is is a powerful method, but just the fact that you may not be getting all of those calories in within that one meal each day, that's that's part of the effectiveness of a one meal a day system. But right now, we have we have some research to back up. Combining combining the calorie restriction with the intermittent fasting is more effective than than either of them alone. So I think that's that's really important to know.

[00:27:23] Yeah. And it's interesting because we continue to have this conversation. And, you know, one of the flaws and having to record a intro to a old recorded interview or testimonial with one of our early adopters sitting in the dark running off of battery power in my kitchen last week, is that we want these podcasts in these conversations to be like real time and as conversational as possible. So this is one of the things that we is one of the most challenged questions like, OK, what do I do now? Well, if you want to continually have some aggressive fat loss and stick with a more aggressive fasting plan, no matter greater, if you're more of the maintenance and you want to do kind of the low and slow, you've got the opportunity to to just simply skip one meal a day.

[00:28:10] And right there, as long as you don't go open feeding season during your feet, your window, let's say you're eating from four to eight p.m., then you're going to be setting yourself up for success in the most simplistic way that we can find without having to do all the other tracking and things that that my wife actually succeeds with.

[00:28:28] But she's she's a small subset. She's not she's not the main, the mainstay or the norm, I should say.

[00:28:35] So I really like the the outcome not never mind.

[00:28:41] Are we going to put this in simply and give yourself a lot of variability and flexibility and progress without pressure.

[00:28:48] So measuring the progress, without putting all that extra pressure on you.

[00:28:53] You know, the other benefits here, like blood pressure changes, body weight changes, BMI, glucose improvements when see decreases in insulin levels. There was all this other cool stuff that came out of here, which is more along the lines of why we came to fasting, which was to get the weight off and more importantly, improve our long term health.

[00:29:14] So if there's any encouragement for me, Tommy, and then if anything you want to say to kind of land the plane as you do so eloquently, when I kind of get up in the air and don't, you know, kind of just keep going down these rabbit holes, it's it's really that fasting allows you to regain control of your life at a time when so much is left out of outside of your control.

[00:29:40] And if you're struggling with the decisions or you're struggling with what to do, then that's why we created the Fast Start guide and you can just go to our website and download it for free, become part of our group, and just start asking more questions and keep the conversation going with us and we'll help you along the way.

[00:29:58] Yeah, I think I think the only thing I want to add to that is what I when I reflect back to right before I started getting serious about fasting versus now just just what I didn't understand then was that.

[00:30:14] I was keeping things so complicated, I was looking for the next little puzzle piece to put together to make the perfect solution to regaining my own health, losing the weight for good, when when in fact, the answer was right there in front of me. It was it was the simplification of it. That was it was so simple that I had been missing it the whole time. I was almost I had almost been hesitant or scared to even try it. And and once once I once I started once I just got started and saw just a couple of of wins quickly. Then it all started to really just fit into place. So I think that's the only thing I wanted to add.

[00:30:55] Ok, love it. Love it. Love, love it. So yeah, I could really keep this conversation just going around kind of what the realization of what we've been through, you know, over the last 12 to 14 months individually as a society, you know, the different struggles and curveballs we've had at us. But if you're you've had some big life changes happen. You know, one of the easiest ways to to regain some of that control is simply, like you said, Tommy, just staying consistent and putting it in in a simple manner.

[00:31:24] So go to our website, the fasting for Life Dotcom download the Fast Start guide, become part of our fasting for life community on Facebook. We've got our challenge coming up on March 18th. We're super excited to be doing more of these this year because the results have been incredible. And as always, Tommy, thank you so much for your time. Thank you guys for listening. I appreciate your patience with our pivot last week. But we are back on track and we are ready to rock and roll.

[00:31:53] Perfect. Thank you.

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