Ep. 113 - Food Sensitivities | Is There Truly A Specific Way To Break Fast "Correctly"? | Bulletproof Coffee

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In this episode, Dr. Scott and Tommy discuss food sensitivities, do digestive enzymes change when fasting? Is there truly a specific way that we can say breaking the fast "correctly"? What could a successful weight loss journey look like? And making sure that you do feel good after you break your fast.

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Fasting For Life Ep. 113 Transcript

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Dr. Scott Watier
Hello. I'm Dr. Scott Watier.

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Tommy Welling
And I'm Tommy Welling, and you're listening to the Fasting for Life podcast.

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Dr. Scott Watier
This podcast is about using fasting as a tool to regain your health, achieve ultimate wellness and live the life you truly deserve.

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Tommy Welling
Each episode is a short conversation on a single topic with immediate, actionable steps. We cover everything from fat loss on health and wellness to the science of lifestyle design.

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Dr. Scott Watier
We started fasting for life because of how fasting has transformed our lives, and we hope to share the tools that we have learned along the way. Everyone, welcome to the Fasting for Life podcast. My name is Dr. Scott Water, and I'm here as always, am a good friend and colleague.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Tell me. Well, and good afternoon to you, sir.

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Tommy Welling
Hey, Scott, how are you doing?

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Dr. Scott Watier
Fantastic, my friend. I cannot believe that these words are going to be coming out of my mouth at our next challenge starts tomorrow. So if you are new to the podcast, to the fasting for life lifestyle, if you're new to Tommy and I, you've hopped on the right episode because we are literally starting with a challenge tomorrow

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Dr. Scott Watier
, February 23rd, and today we're going to go over some of the most common questions and some questions that have been submitted to us over the last 30 or 60 days from you guys, the loyal listeners. So welcome to the new listeners.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Shout out to all of you faithful listeners. Tommy and I are super excited and grateful that you are here with us, and we're going to unpack some really cool questions and conversations today. If you're interested in joining the challenge, you can always go to the show, notes WW.

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Dr. Scott Watier
The Fasting for life dot com forward slash live. You'll get more information. Frequently asked questions about the challenge and more details on the link. All right, Tommy, you ready to unpack some of the questions that have come in over the last 30 or 60 days?

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Dr. Scott Watier
I'm going to pass the baton to you and dealer's choice on which one you want to conversate about first.

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Tommy Welling
Yeah, absolutely. I like getting into these questions because we never know exactly what part of a fasting journey they're going to come from. And and the answers can can vary depending on on experience, level and perspective. So I think a good one to start with is the question about food sensitivities.

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Tommy Welling
You have one.

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Dr. Scott Watier
I knew I do. This is I just got like a little shudder, right, because this opening up Pandora's box with food sensitivities can lead down to some pretty specific recommendations, per the individual right. So everybody has a different, you know, like a fingerprint.

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Dr. Scott Watier
So a lot of our, you know, if you've been dealing with a symptom, you've been struggling with a health concern and you're down the path of food sensitivities really want to take a kind of a different perspective in that when you start fasting.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Sometimes the question comes up, What am I? And this is how the question came in. I'm wondering about food sensitivities. I've been lactose intolerant. I want to. I still enjoy a charcuterie board with friends, but due sensitivities becomes stronger when fasting or do digestive enzymes change when fasting?

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Dr. Scott Watier
And then the question was also asked in a post, and a little bit a different way where it was like, I'm starting to get some tummy ex post meal. So am I. Am I becoming more sensitive to certain foods?

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Dr. Scott Watier
And there's really a dichotomy there that we kind of want to unpack?

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Tommy Welling
Yeah, I think it's a really good question. I've heard this one a lot, some some some version of this question, and I even had this. This was one of my recurring thoughts as I was kind of getting into my fasting journey, which was I.

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Tommy Welling
I had never really felt specifically like in any specific way. After a meal, I couldn't pinpoint how I was feeling after a specific meal before I started fasting. And what I what I came to realize with perspective and some time was that it was because there wasn't much space in between my meals.

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Tommy Welling
You know, I was eating a lot of the same things and but they were very frequent. So overall, I felt just kind of like bad, you know, but I didn't have much time when I didn't feel bad, so I wasn't really able to separate what I was bringing in what I wasn't reacting well to versus just an

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Tommy Welling
overall just bad feeling most of the time. And on the fasting side of that, we start to provide the time to actually start noticing the differences in what we eat and how we feel afterwards. So it can be it can be eye-opening.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Yeah, and it reminds me of a couple of sort of personal scenarios here where, you know, we've become friends over the last few years, and I am not a big going out to get Mexican food or Tex-Mex food or that style of food.

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Dr. Scott Watier
I've never, even when I was highly insulin resistant and overweight and fatigued and brain fog and not feeling great, like you said the majority of the time, I still wouldn't really enjoy going out and eating that food. So for whatever reason, it just didn't sit well with me.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Yes, I would have. Maybe I would have a margarita. I would avoid eating the entire boxed basket of chips, right? I would wait for my meal. I would I would replace the fajita, you know, fajitas with, you know, more beans and like a fajita bowl without the extra carbohydrates.

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Dr. Scott Watier
And I still don't feel really full and uncomfortable. And since fasting and losing the weight, I don't go out and get Mexican food anymore because the way I feel now is even worse after eating it than I did then.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Because now I can feel that delta or that change between how the food actually sits with my body. And I use my my wife as an example. Her and I have very different eating styles in terms of the foods we like.

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Dr. Scott Watier
And it's not because of just choice air quotes choice, it's because of how certain foods make us feel now, where she knows that if she has a certain food for breakfast or she needs more more of a balanced plate, or it's more carb and protein heavy and less fat, and that her body responds well, I respond much

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Dr. Scott Watier
better to a higher fat, higher protein content and a lower carbohydrate, so it may not necessarily be a sensitivity in terms of a histamine or an IGA IGA response to the food. But just a you're feeling the difference on how that food responds, how your body responds to that meal.

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Tommy Welling
Yeah. And it's crazy how big that difference can get because the the positive effects that you can get during during a good, solid fast like like the release, the lowering of the brain fog, the increased energy, the adrenaline, the ketones that start to come up.

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Tommy Welling
And then if you if you actually eat too much of the wrong foods and just kind of like make all those processes come to a screeching halt all of a sudden and you immediately feel that difference that delta right there.

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Tommy Welling
And it I mean, it is in your face. It's to the point to where when I first started fasting, I started to. I started to have trouble like limiting certain indulgent foods that I had had in the past.

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Tommy Welling
And as I as I got into the the initial months and probably like six months in at a certain point, I just cut off certain whole foods like like pizza, for example, because that was one of my like indulgent foods from from the past, you know?

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Tommy Welling
But it didn't take long to keep going. Drop some more weight to where I never really wanted to look at a box of pizza again because I know exactly how it would make me feel if I if I got that and then eight more than probably a slice or two, I know exactly what that looks like, and

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Tommy Welling
I don't want to feel that again.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Yeah. And similarly, you know, now when we go to our favorite restaurant for date night, I don't get the big steak with the side of mashed potatoes and the asparagus. Right? I'll get my favorite thing, which is a small cup of tomato basil soup, and I'll get the grilled chicken Caesar salad, and I just feel way better

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Dr. Scott Watier
the next day doing that than rather going to my go to, which would have made me feel uncomfortable in the past. Now, if you are dealing with, like some very specific sensitivities, then obviously you want to eliminate those things.

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Dr. Scott Watier
one thing I will say when you start fasting is that there is a potential time where your digestive enzymes need to adapt to the amount of food that you're now consuming. So a couple of things that lead into the second question of like, What do I do you know, when I break my fast?

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Dr. Scott Watier
Because that can also lead to, you know, some some short term digestive changes in terms of, you know, I have to run to the bathroom effect, which is we hear about sometimes and we really want to take this question in a different light, which is is there truly a specific way that we can say breaking the fast

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Dr. Scott Watier
air quotes correctly? Right? So controlling your environment is really where we want to or come from to be from this place. And it's going to be a little bit different depending on your style of eating your lifestyle decisions when it comes to your food, but also really just, you know, feeling in control when you are breaking that

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Dr. Scott Watier
fast is is really part of the long term solution.

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Tommy Welling
Yeah. You just reminded me the first time I broke a seven day fast was actually at a Tex Mex restaurant on a date night. And yeah, no, I know you're shaking your head like a bad idea. I know in retrospect it was it was a very bad idea.

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Tommy Welling
I felt very on. Comfortable actually felt sick to my stomach, and it it was a self-correcting problem, I didn't do it again that that was the exact opposite of having control over my environment when breaking that fast. So things that lead you into feelings of control so you can control how how you actually do that would be

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Tommy Welling
staying at home, cooking at home, being the one to do the the meal prep for that meal, especially on a longer fast putting, putting a little bit of time and thought into the preparation of it. Looking forward to it, putting some foods within that meal that you're going to actually really enjoy.

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Tommy Welling
And you know what? Ingredients went into it? And I think having something to look forward to while you're actually doing your fast too is is is a powerful motivator for reminding yourself like, Yeah, I know exactly why I'm doing this fast and what I'm looking forward to to break it.

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Tommy Welling
Because with with fewer opportunities to eat, you should you should really, you know, like take advantage of of the psychological and physiological effects of that meal.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Yeah, I know if I'm doing a longer fasts in a time window that I don't care for, right? Like, let's say I'm I'm doing a I don't typically love the 60 to 72 hour mark on three day fasts, and I don't do them all that often.

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Dr. Scott Watier
I did use them while figuring out fasting and in my 548 and a half pounds and 50 day weight loss journey, right? So, yeah, I did use them as a tool, but it's not something that we do often.

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Dr. Scott Watier
If you're reversing diabetes, there's power in that window, but can also be a hard window to stick to. So knowing that you have something to look forward to and putting foods that are nutrient dense that you feel good, which is why I thought these two questions were related.

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Dr. Scott Watier
When you feel good, after you eat, it is really things that you want to focus on because that is going to be a dopamine hit, a positive reinforcement for the long term plan of what maintenance or what long term fasting lifestyle should look like, right?

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Dr. Scott Watier
So, you know, eating these are some of the things we rat a tat tat that we talk about eating a balanced plate, eating intentionally, eating slowly. If you have experience and digestive changes, maybe using a handful of almonds before you eat cruciferous veggies, things like that, and making sure that you're really getting enough food during that window

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Dr. Scott Watier
, too is something that we we talk a lot about, you know, in the challenges in the continuity group as well.

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Tommy Welling
Yeah. And I feel like putting that that positive association at the end of the fast. So making sure that you do feel good after you break your fast means you've just rewarded your your body and your dopamine system, your brain to to say, yeah, after a fast, I am going to continue to feel good rather than doing

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Tommy Welling
what I did, which was giving up all of all control and then feeling terrible after I did this long fast and and I, I did the exact opposite of rewarding myself for a fast, well done. I just discouraged the behavior in that moment, and I paid for it too.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Yeah, no. Yeah, I self corrected very quickly after even being in control, cooking my own food in my own house. The first time I broke a 24 hour fast or one yellow day, which reminds me, if you're new to the podcast, you can head to the website, the fasting for.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Com. We've got some free resources and we get a wall of fame, some really cool. If you're looking for an extra push or some feedback, you can head back to episode 100, which is kind of where we did a reset and hit the most impactful episodes from based on feedback from you guys, the listeners over the last

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Dr. Scott Watier
hundred episodes that we've been doing this and really cool to see that we broke a milestone of 1 million downloads, Tommy. So just incredible, still in shock and awe that we've gotten there. So really appreciative of you guys. Each one of those of those listeners really does matter.

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Dr. Scott Watier
And you know, if you're again, if you're new, go to the website. Fast Start Guide. Is there the insulin assessments there? You can download those couple of resources that we've created. We're working on unpacking some more as we continue to move through the start of 2020 to.

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Dr. Scott Watier
So a couple more questions here, Tommy. Let's see here. So this is one where just before the previous challenge, we told John's story, which was a story of what a successful weight loss and fasting journey can be where we end up being.

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Dr. Scott Watier
The 5% of people that maintain the ideal healthy weight, or the 12% of people based off some new research that we did an episode on that are metabolically healthy, right? This question came in from Dana and it was I've been on my fasting journey since August lost £35, still a long way to go, about £80 less left

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Dr. Scott Watier
. But the weight loss has seemingly stalled and she followed the and advanced fasting plan and had a net loss of about a pound. And she's been sticking with the weekly schedules and had an additional loss each week of a, you know, of about a pound as well, which is really good.

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Dr. Scott Watier
But she wants to speed up the process. And what do you suggest? So there's a couple of things we can unpack. Here, but really zooming out for a minute in the sustainable long term, kind of what could a successful weight loss journey look like?

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Dr. Scott Watier
And then the second piece is, I think we really need to change the name of the challenges to the seven day plateau breaker.

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Tommy Welling
Yeah.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Right.

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Tommy Welling
Yeah.

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Dr. Scott Watier
And really, because that's what about half the people do is when they sign up, they they're they're coming to break through this stall or this plateau.

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Tommy Welling
Yeah, coming at it from from that, from that plateau. You know, when I hear £1 per week, I don't like looking at it as a discouragement point. I like looking at it. The fact that if, if, if I have, if I have £80 to lose, that's where I came to fasting.

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Tommy Welling
I didn't get there quickly. I didn't get there overnight. I didn't even get there in a matter of twelve months, right? Like, it literally took me three decades to get to that point. Maybe even a little bit more than that.

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Tommy Welling
I mean, most of my life had been spent with an upward trajectory of my weight. So when we discover how powerful fasting can be, if we're if we're going at it correctly, it can feel like, well, can't I just speed up the process?

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Tommy Welling
And so there's a matter of patience that kind of comes with it. And then you even have patients on a day to day basis where you're in the middle of a fasting timer and maybe you're counting down the time until you get to break your fast.

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Tommy Welling
And and that comes that comes to patients as well. So. So understanding that there is there is a patients portion of this journey, I think is important. But also understanding that £1 per week consistently is nothing to sneeze at.

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Tommy Welling
I mean, that's over £50 in a year. And even if you had £150 to lose, OK, well, that's that's three years you spent getting there after the 20, 30, 50 years that it took to actually get to that spot to where you needed fasting, right?

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Dr. Scott Watier
And something real actionable for this person for you. Dana would be sit down and track exactly what you're doing now in terms of your food, your energy. Try to get some data or kind of where you're at. You know, maybe some slippage just crept in where you're doing some fasting.

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Dr. Scott Watier
We're not really sticking to your windows or maybe your sleep disturbed or your stress is high. And these are all conversations of of things that we discuss week in and week out on. You know, how to make fasting a sustainable lifestyle.

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Dr. Scott Watier
We don't want the diet mentality, right? So I love that perspective, Tommy, that you just zoomed out where we're going to be picking a lifestyle or an end point that is going to be sustainable, right? And if you do have 130, let's see 110 hundred £15 here that you want to lose, like.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Good for you for starting first and foremost and incredible results that you've gotten so far. But to you, that's going to be there and £80 for now is going to be a completely different person. Yeah. So, you know, really taking stock it, OK, what were you doing when it was successful?

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Dr. Scott Watier
And then you might be at a physiological set point. And that's why I want to, you know, the plateau breaker concept comes into play is it might be time where we need to vary your windows. We need to push a little bit.

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Dr. Scott Watier
But really, maybe there's some slippage there, so maybe it's time to sit down and track. So just some actionable things that you can think about. And if those resonate with you that you can go and do you know today you can just go, you can start tracking, you can start planning your meals better.

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Dr. Scott Watier
You can really look at what was working, why you don't think it's working now. And it might be time to kind of take like a fast break for a couple of weeks and kind of do a little reset because it is part of that longer process, like you mentioned, Tommy to get that desired result.

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Dr. Scott Watier
So I love that question in that in that conversation around it.

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Tommy Welling
Yeah, me too. I'm in my first year of fasting. I had those times where the scale stalled and what I realized is I was putting too many of my old like indulgent foods that I was like, I had these big dopamine hits four and I was planning those for my my fast meals because I was almost looking

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Tommy Welling
at it like I missed some opportunities to eat those quote unquote delicious foods. But then they were causing more scale volatility and more frustration with the process. So if that resonates, that's a that's a reason why we also go into those kind of things and emotional connections to food and how to break those during the challenge as

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Tommy Welling
well.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Yeah. All right. one more fun one here at the end. So one more one more question that we want to address today. We get this one a lot is I'll get the wording here exactly what this came in from.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Mary, what do you guys think of bulletproof coffee, i.e. coffee with MCT oil, grass fed butter? Is there any drawback? Does it break your fast? Is it satiating and craving killing? But I don't want to jeopardize the fast cycling that we're doing.

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Dr. Scott Watier
So she's been following some of the fasting schedules. I believe she was doing the fast start guide or the one meal a day fasting right and bulletproof coffee is delicious. I'm just going to come right out and say that I never thought by putting.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Butter, and if you don't know about it, she told us her bulletproof coffee is, but if you if you don't know what it is really clearly it's putting for me in this house and I used to do this when I was doing the keto diet back in the day.

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Dr. Scott Watier
And I'll have two of these, right, so considerable amount of caloric intake here, because if you're just looking at what's in it, it's a tablespoon of coconut oil, a tablespoon of unsalted butter, even though I used to use salted because I prefer it.

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Dr. Scott Watier
And then I would do 16 ounces of organic home brewed coffee, right? And I wouldn't put any sweetener in some people put like stevia or Zeiler, not what's the word I'm looking for swerve like one of those erythritol de sweeteners?

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Dr. Scott Watier
Yeah. So, you know, those have zero calories, but really just one tablespoon of coconut oil, one tablespoon of butter. I would do two tablespoons of butter and I would actually use the MDC-T oil. So we're looking at anywhere between 225 to like 400 calories in this thing.

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Dr. Scott Watier
So to her question. Does this break a fast? It absolutely breaks your fast. And people are going to be like, Well, they're kind of underuse why I'm doing this right? 100% agree. Now there is a school of thought out there by the creator of bulletproof coffee that has a whole product line around these bulletproof coffee products, right

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Dr. Scott Watier
? And can bulletproof coffee aid in the production of ketones? And and that conversation? Yes, it can. But here, what we really want to focus on is getting insulin low to reverse insulin resistance and allow the body to naturally produce ketones by getting into that deeper.

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Tommy Welling
Level of.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Fat burning. So by adding in calories, you are spiking insulin to a point where we are literally stopping that insulin lowering process. So.

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Tommy Welling
Yeah.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Tommy, I know you love one of the responses. When we had this conversation, one day, one of our one of our clients response to this bulletproof coffee question was priceless.

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Tommy Welling
Yeah, he was a big proponent of it, has been using it during his his fasting journey and asked us a similar question. And after hearing, you know, the response and the pause in the natural fat burning process that he was going through, he just threw one line out there and said, Never mind, I can't be bothered with

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Tommy Welling
this anymore.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Which I love. And the word bothered.

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Tommy Welling
Bothered, yeah, like, like, no, this is bothering my process, you know, because if you really like, if you really enjoy the process of bulletproof coffee of having that, then, you know, put it into your window if you'd like to have it.

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Tommy Welling
But you know, drinking two or three or 400 calories in just a few minutes, that that's not my favorite thing to do. So it's not something that I'm going to regularly put into into my regimen. But understanding the difference between, you know, your your body's tapping into long term fat stores and what that means for your own

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Tommy Welling
ketosis and what that means for getting the weight off. IS is different versus like adding in exogenous ketones and other things like that that can kind of support the process and our ketogenic or keto friendly, if you will, but but are still kind of parsing the natural process that you might be looking to optimize.

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Dr. Scott Watier
Yeah. And if you're if you're if you're doing bulletproof coffee and it's going to be part of your long term plan like I'm not giving up my, you know, I had to give up coffee for a short term when it was actually causing a a blood sugar response in me that was not favorable when I was super

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Dr. Scott Watier
stressed out and under slept in overweight coffee became an actual blood sugar, a hypoglycemic response. So I get an insulin response, which would then force my blood sugar even lower, which would increase the volatility, which is not what we want.

00;23;24;00 - 00;23;35;24
Dr. Scott Watier
So I had to give up coffee, but now I have coffee every morning and it's part of my long term plan and I don't have it right when I wake up. I have it about mid mid to late morning on most days, right?

00;23;35;24 - 00;23;47;20
Dr. Scott Watier
Every now and then I'll need a little caffeine. Pick me up. But if it is bulletproof coffee, something that you want to stick to long term in your in a fat loss mode like Tommy said, put it in your window, but don't give it up.

00;23;47;25 - 00;24;07;26
Dr. Scott Watier
Still enjoy it and still have it and still have happiness in your life when you're fasting. Right? But just a different perspective there on when and where and how to use it. So, Tommy, as we wrap up today's episode for you new listeners, now is the time the next fasting challenge is seven weeks out from tomorrow.

00;24;08;07 - 00;24;19;23
Dr. Scott Watier
So if you're thinking about it, you've heard about it, you're like, What is this thing? You can go to the show, notes the fasting for lifestyle. Com Forward Slash Live. You can click the link, get more information and details, Tommy.

00;24;19;23 - 00;24;30;10
Dr. Scott Watier
But as we wrap up today, any final thoughts on the questions and I really love the conversation and the different, nuanced ways to approach some of these questions that we consistently here.

00;24;30;22 - 00;24;48;26
Tommy Welling
Yeah, absolutely. So do I. And I just want to highlight the fact that every day during the challenge, we we have dedicated time for Q&A session. So I think that's that's a cool thing to understand that no matter where you are in your fasting journey at the very beginning or much more advanced, you probably still have some

00;24;48;26 - 00;25;01;23
Tommy Welling
of these things that kind of come up and you'd love some some perspective on. We have dedicated time for that during the challenge, so it's a really cool way to level up on an individual basis as we kind of go through and break those plateaus.

00;25;02;18 - 00;25;13;12
Dr. Scott Watier
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely love it. Love it. Love it. Can't wait to get started tomorrow. If you have any questions for us, you can always reach out info at d fasting prolife dot com info at B Fasting for life dot com.

00;25;13;18 - 00;25;17;01
Dr. Scott Watier
Me, as always, appreciate the conversation and we'll talk soon. Thank you.

00;25;19;15 - 00;25;32;02
Tommy Welling
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00;25;32;24 - 00;25;47;25
Dr. Scott Watier
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